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#1 01-05-2006 01:09:28

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Astuces sur White Wiz

"Je vous rappelle qu'ici, on parle de "petites astuces" et non de calculs. En aucun cas, il ne devra figurer de "formules" pour faire des perfect shot, ou tout simplement des questions se posant à ce sujets. Ceci étant interdit sur le site officiel, je pense que les admins voudront egalement respecter cela sur notre forum."

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#2 01-05-2006 08:58:51

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

Des formules ??? En prenant en compte :

- Le vent
- La pente
- La hauteur du green
- Le slope
- la pluie
- le fairway ou rough
- si ton slip te serre trop

= la méga formule du perfect shot
:D  :D


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#3 01-05-2006 18:02:03

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Ici en fait il y a 2 3 astuces pour faire des Overdrives (c'est toujours utile)

Trou 1 :
Jouer sur la gauche en mettant votre viseur vers l'entrée du lac, de manière à quelle n'aille pas dans l'eau non congelée :)
Trou 2 :
Si on ne cherche pas le record, amusez vous à jouer sur la gauche du green, overdrive facile: )
Trou 4 :
Par 5 facile, premier coup à gauche du bunker de préférence, et deuxieme ben on utilise la glace pour aller sur le green (ou rentré la balle)
Trou 7 :
jouer droit devant en la courbant un peu de préférence vers la droite (point bleu à gauche) de manière qu'elle ne se colle pas contre la falaise et vous empèche de jouer votre prochain coup
Trou 8 :
Alors là on peut faire son record pour le drive (415 je crois perso)
Prendre un item "diamand vert", powerspin vers le haut avec super pangya sur la gauche du chateau, si tout se passe bien, c'est vraiment pas mal :)
Trou 10 :
Pour ce par5, le vent aidant, jouer sur la glace à droite, il y a moyen de dépasser les 300 yards aussi :) J'ai fait un albatross cet après-midi sur ce trou :)

il y en a d'autres et j'espère que j'ai pas confondu les numéros de trous :)


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#4 02-05-2006 22:05:48

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

Euh, Wild, est-il bien necessaire de préciser la moulure du slip ?  :lol:


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#5 03-05-2006 07:33:02

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

oui cele me parait essentiel !!!!


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#6 23-05-2006 05:48:39

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

J'ai entendu dire qu'il était possible de faire un truc sympatoche sur le trou 17...

> Cobra + Powerspin à travers les arbres à droite pour rouler vers la rivière gelée et se faire un OD de 300y  :shock:

Après plusieurs tentatives infructueuses, je me demandais si c'est vraiment possible et si quelqu'un aurait une astuce pour y arriver.

merci ++


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#7 23-05-2006 12:35:48

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HMmm cobra + powerspin sur ste trou, je navais jamais vu encore... Je sais pas si C vraiment possible...   moi je fais 2 fois tomahawk pour pouvoir faire un birdy trankilou ^^

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#8 23-05-2006 21:57:25

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si tu as moyen de me dire ou placer le premier tomahawk
je suis preneur :)


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#9 24-05-2006 01:45:30

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hmmm faut faire attention à pas mal de chose :D, tu fais toma sur la glace, en regarde bien à ce qu'il ny ai pas de tronc darbre sur le trajet de la balle... Le toma traverse les branches, mais po le tronc :). Et puis faut eviter detre trop pres des bords sur chemin de glace pour eviter le "unplayable area".  Ensuite le 2eme toma cest pareil, faut faire gaff aux troncs darbres :D.

Mais bon technique dangereuse paceque si tu rates.. cest ob..  quit ou double :)

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#10 04-06-2006 22:57:45

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vous devriez voir sur le forum de albatross18.com sur l'equipue stealt il y a les photos astuces pour nort wiz apart qu'il faut  traduire lol mais la je peut pas vous aidez lol  :^^:

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#11 15-06-2006 09:22:36

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

J'ai un peu de mal avec les 6 derniers trous du parcours...

Quelqu'un pour des astuces ?  :^^:


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#12 15-06-2006 10:46:40

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http://www.albatross18.com/forum/forum_ … 1#letgotop

En attendant une traduction ou autre  :^^:


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#13 15-06-2006 10:57:26

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

Merci beaucoup Abri   ;)

C'est amusant, je viens juste de tomber dessus en cherchant sur les forums d'Alba...

Merci encore pour ta recherche  :^^:


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#14 27-06-2006 08:43:19

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

Pour le trou 17, j'ai joué avec Tomato et il fait 2 tomas,
le premier sur la glace a droite, il faut viser entre les arbres et faire +/- 245y
le second, il faut viser le green, mais je conseille de prendre une potion de ralentissement pour le second^^ (vous êtes sur la glace!!!) et attention il y a un dénivelé de 10y donc ça va plus loin^^

Voilà pour le trou 17... pour info, un faux pas à ce trou et ça ne pardonne pas direct OB!

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#15 27-06-2006 12:20:59

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Je confirme pour le cobra spin sur le 17 on depasser la flaque d'eau mais il est vraiment pas facil a faire et ca depend bcp du vent .

Donc le plus sur reste le toma mais le cobra quant il reussi c'est vraiment impressionant .


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#16 04-08-2006 20:33:30

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

C en anglais mais bon...

(g plus l'adresse du fofo ou g pecho ça  -_-  )



[WLKc]       //////////// ~ NORTH WIZ ~ \\\\\\
             Target Score (-14) ~ Optimal Score (-21)

Ahh, North Wiz, the winter wonderland. Purple skies, falling snowflakes,
frozen ponds, festive music, and a truckload of overdrive pang to be had. If
you've been trying to boost that "Best distance" statistic in your profile,
this is the place to do it -- 300 yard drives are common and it's possible to
shoot over 450 on a couple of holes. And it is possible, though extremely
challenging, to sink a putt over 100 yards here. It is listed as 'A'
difficulty, but that doesn't mean it'll be a walk in the park.

GENERAL NOTES ON THIS COURSE
- When you land in the rough, your ball will say 90% power. That is a LIE.
   It's much closer to 95%
- There's a new terrain: Ice. It counts as rough, but you still shoot with
   100% power and the ball rolls quite a ways on icy surfaces. The kicker?
   When you shoot, the power bar moves about as fast as it would in Bunker.
- The fringe around the green is rock solid. Hitting it will make your ball
   bounce as much as it would if you hit a path. This can screw up your
   approach, so beware.
- Beware of the cracks in the ice. Sometimes, if you land in the water
   hazard, your ball will be placed in such a way that your character goes
   under the ice and you'll have to move the ball onto a fairway. That's
   two strokes wasted, just like an O.B.
- If you want to make lots of pang quickly, play the front 9. You should be
   able to rack up 500 pang just from overdrive.

HOLE  1 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 3

If you're looking for some easy pang, aim for the pond on the left. You
should be able to shoot 280 to 310 yards. Just keep in mind your next shot
will be with a wood on ice... not a pleasant situation.

HOLE  2 // PAR 3
TARGET SCORE - 2

If the hole is near the front of the green, do NOT use a wood. There's a
bunker in your way, and if you're using a 3W and aiming only a few yards past
the bunker, the ball's first bounce will be in the sand. And the second, and
that's all it'll do. A 2I with backspin should clear the bunker handily.

If you're looking for overdrive and an insanely long putt, use a 2I or 3W
and aim for the upper-right corner of the pond. You want the ball to roll
as far away from the hole as possible. Next shot, whip out your 40y putter,
smack the ball with max power and pray.

HOLE  3 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 3

Aim for the left part of the fairway. It's slanted and it will bounce to the
right. If you aim for the middle you'll end up on the little slope between
the rough and the fairway and you'll get restricted to something stupid like
a 2I.

The river looks like an easy overdrive opportunity, but beware: It's a hill
that slopes down into that hole. If you can't get the ball over the top about
245 yards away, it'll slowly start to roll back 20-25 yards and into the
water. Sploosh!

HOLE  4 // PAR 5
TARGET SCORE - 4
OPTIMAL SCORE- 3

There is a big hole in the ice. No, it's not in the path of your shot. One
of the little cracks is, however. And it's perfectly possible your ball might
just hop in.

If you have a weak drive, you can still score an eagle here. Just bounce
your approach off the ice for the extra yards.

HOLE  5 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 3

There's a frozen river here. If you've got a 242-250 yard drive and around 7
spin, a regular drive with topspin will bounce off it and score around 25
overdrive. If you've got less than that, just use a little topspin, and if
you've got a lot less, use backspin. It should be possible for everyone to
bounce off the ice, but you won't go as far if you don't use topspin. (Might
be different based on the wind, of course)

And, this should go without saying, don't aim right at the hole in the ice.
Aim a little to the left, and then a little more just to be safe.

If you didn't bean it 260 yards, the house might be in your way on the
approach shot. If that's the case, backspin should be enough to get you over
the roof.

HOLE  6 // PAR 5
TARGET SCORE - 4
OPTIMAL SCORE- 3

This look a lot like Sepia Wind hole 9, doesn't it?

Unlike Sepia Wind, the path isn't a good place to aim. You'll end up in the
snow on an angle with no hope of reaching green in two. You can bounce it off
the ice and onto the snow for a little more distance, or roll it down the ice
to get close enough for the approach (It'll be a wood on ice though, so the
power bar will be zipping back and forth)

HOLE  7 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 3

Easy 300y drive here. Aim to the left and onto the lake. If you have a
sub-240 drive, apply backspin. If you're above 240, apply topspin. (This is
so your first bounce is on ice. You'll lose a lot of distance hitting the
snow first). Then add a little bit of left curve. If there's a strong west
wind, use almost as much left curve as you can (Assuming you have around 6
curve. Cecilia may want to hold back a bit.) If there's a strong east wind,
curve it a teeny bit right. Now, aim just at the left tip of the tree in your
way (more towards the middle in west winds, further away in east winds) and
fire. You shouldn't go in the water unless you used far too much curve. The
biggest danger is that you might hit the left side and stop, making you stand
in the bank on your next shot which will make it unbearable.

Was that too complicated? Just want to play it safe, without the overdrive?
Too bad! There's a gaping hole where you want to shoot it. You can aim short
of the hole (in which case you'll be too far away to make the green), or you
can tomahawk over or try to skip the water (which is a bigger risk than the
overdrive thing in the first place)

HOLE  8 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 4
OPTIMAL SCORE -3

This one's tricky to birdie. On your approach (assuming you aimed for the
fairway), you can try and (power)curve around the castle, or you can go over
the castle. Yes, over the castle. Aim between the parapets and use a 2W with
backspin. (1W's trajectory is too low and will hit the wall and go inside the
castle, and 3W doesn't shoot far enough and will hit the wall and go inside
the castle). Don't try this if your 2W marker isn't near or beyond the back
of the green though, because you'll fly over the castle while the ball is in
the "down" part of its trajectory (and it will hit the wall and go inside the
castle).

Now, this hole is fantastic for overdrive. Use a spin mastery, and powershot
if you have it, aim to the left, use full topspin, and either do a powerspin,
or a tomahawk powerspin. If you're lucky it will roll down the left side
about 300 yards, then powerspin another 100 or so. If you're unlucky though,
it'll hit the bottom-left bank, travel towards the castle gate, and bounce
back (or worse, fly off the bank and into the O.B. area).

HOLE  9 // PAR 3
TARGET SCORE - 2

Interesting thing about this hole: There's no water in the river. If you land
in the pit you might just bounce out.

Depending on the hole position you may have to use a little curve or aim away
from the hole. The corner of the castle can be dangerous, though it's usually
not a problem.

HOLE 10 // PAR 5
TARGET SCORE - 4
OPTIMAL SCORE- 3

Not much to say about this if you play it safe. The river looks like a good
spot for overdrive (and boy is it ever!) but it's far from easy and you won't
be able to milk it for more than 10 or so yards unless you're willing to
take a big risk and you know what you're doing.

It is possible and extremely difficult to break 500y on the tee shot.

Yes, 500 yards. Using a spin mastery and a powershot, perform a powerspin
tomahawk and aim for the left bank of the river. If your shot is bang-on,
you'll impact on the bank past the first hole, bounce off going to the right
of the second hole, then roll down the narrowing river without hitting any of
the banks. Then you'll hopefully come to a stop before rolling off the map.

...Hopefully.

HOLE 11 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 4
OPTIMAL SCORE- 3

The approach shot here can be tricky, since there are trees in the way. Your
choices are to tomahawk through the branches, powercurve around the trees, or
settle for a 20+ yard putt. Either way, you'll have to earn a birdie here.

By the way, if you're intrigued by the perfect path to the green to the left
of the tee, tomahawk onto the little ice shard. Not a good idea unless you're
one of those people who can sink every chip shot given the opportunity.

HOLE 12 // PAR 3
TARGET SCORE - 2

There's a slopey wall behind the green so if you just hit it a little too
hard you'll probably roll up it and down back onto the green.

There's also an ice river to take advantage of, but be careful. Not only of
rolling too far and into the water, but of bouncing the wrong way and going
O.B. Since you'll only be able to use an iron (because of the water), it's
not worth the risk.

HOLE 13 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 3

Ignore the little clearing with the benches. If you aim there, your next shot
will have a tree or two in the way that you'll have to tomahawk through.

HOLE 14 // PAR 5
TARGET SCORE - 4

Don't aim for the path. Yes, you want to hit the path, but don't aim there.
You will hit the little tree planter and either end up 50 yards further away
fron the hole or O.B. Instead, go into overhead view, zoom all the way in,
and aim a little bit right of the planter. Then apply right curve and miss
pangya to the left (Stay in the pink zone -- if you stop outside the pink
area the shot will veer left instead of curving, which might make you hit the
planter). You should bounce off the path once and get a decent drive out of
that.

Next shot, aim for the big snowy open area. No, you can't go over the cliff
on the right, and no, you cant go under the arch thing.

An eagle here is likely possible, but extremely hard compared to most par 5s.
If you powercurve tomahawk into the left cliff you might get enough distance
to pull some kind of funky curvey shot onto the green, but it's unlikely.

HOLE 15 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 3

You should be able to manage 3 without taking any risks. Apply backspin and
aim for the upper-left part of the frozen lake. You should get close enough
to make the green on your next shot. Alternatively, you could use left curve
and bounce it down the path on the left - tricky, but effective. Finally, for
the risktakers you can aim a little right of the middle of the lake and
powerspin over the water for some fair overdrive and an easy approach.

There's also a nifty little trick shot you can do that will net you loads of
overdrive, if you have the power for it. Apply topspin, powerspin can be used
but is not necessary, and aim so your 3W marker is just a little bit past the
near bank on the left side of the lake. If done right, the ball should impact
on the bank, roll along the ice spinning like crazy, and fly off the far wall
almost like a cobra does. Done right, you can net 280-330y drives here. Done
wrong, you'll get a doable approach from the ice, or sometimes, you'll be
pressed against the wall and will have to club down or putt a few yards back
to avoid hitting the wall with your next shot.

Note that you might not need to powerspin at all. It's possible to bounce off
both the little ice floes and onto the fairway. You'll have to experiment
with this on your own though.

HOLE 16 // PAR 3
TARGET SCORE - 2

Avoid using a 3W, unless you plan on using max power. Otherwise, there's a
good chance you will hit a tree. Irons should have no problem clearing the
treetops, however.

If you're attempting to powerspin tomahawk hole-in-one this hole, keep in
mind that iron tomahawks with backspin go much farther than the specified
distance than woods do (about 10 yards, maybe a little more), so use a little
less power. On the flip side though, if you miss the tomahawk, the lesser
power might cause you to roll O.B.

HOLE 17 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 4
OPTIMAL SCORE- 3

If you're going for birdie here, you'll probably need two tomahawks. One for
the tee shot to get through the trees onto the river, and one for the next
shot to get off the river and through more trees.

If you go the long way around, on your second shot beware the giant tree.
Nothing like hitting the branches and going 30 yards. Curve would be a good
idea.

The green is also noticeably more sloped than the average green on North Wiz.
It's entirely possible to bogey this hole without pulling a major boner.

HOLE 18 // PAR 4
TARGET SCORE - 4
OPTIMAL SCORE- 3

It's a lot easier to birdie his hole than 17. First, aim between the trees.
If you have a 250 yard drive or less, 7 spin or less, and there is not a
decent tailwind, apply backspin. Use a powershot and tomahawk. If you succeed
then you should land on the ice and have a 100 yard chip to make the green
and putt for birdie. If you miss the tomahawk, however, you should just end
up in the Water Hazard and chip your approach from the ice.

Because of the water hazard, I recommend aiming for the ice. Even if you
screw up and land in the water you can still get par, which is what you'd get
if you went the "safe" route.


Course Record (-123) HIO (3) Alba (14)
Wind Hill (-4) Wizz Wizz (-8) Silvia Canon (-4)
Blue Water (-14) Sepia Wind (-9) Blue Moon (-12)
Blue Lagoon (-16) West Wizz (-12) North Wizz (-14)
Ice Canon (-18) Shinning Sand (-12)

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#17 04-08-2006 21:01:22

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

Bah ca y était sur l'ancien forum du site officiel... http://www.albatross18.com/forum/forum_ … 1#letgotop

Bon sinon à part ça, normalement ya des images mais le fansite qui les hebergeait n'a plus l'air d'exister... Et dire que je comptais traduire ça dans un moment without flemme  :|
Ca risque de pas être très intéressant dans les images  :snif:

Mais sinon faites un mix avec ca http://pangya.premiumheart.jp/course/wh … index.html (thx acdctabs)


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#18 05-08-2006 09:57:31

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C pas les memes indications que sur le fofo sus nommé  :^^:


Course Record (-123) HIO (3) Alba (14)
Wind Hill (-4) Wizz Wizz (-8) Silvia Canon (-4)
Blue Water (-14) Sepia Wind (-9) Blue Moon (-12)
Blue Lagoon (-16) West Wizz (-12) North Wizz (-14)
Ice Canon (-18) Shinning Sand (-12)

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#19 08-11-2006 15:16:31

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

bon je remonte le topic pour une petite astuce un peu "dangereuse" mais qui peu payer
hier je jouer contre un senior sur NW
et au trou 8 il me fait un toma sur le bord du "chemin" menant au chateau centrale
la balle frappe de plein foué et s'ecrase contre le bord en face et la balle file dnas la "rigole de glace" vers le green
resultat un coup qui lui rapporte 215pang x2

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#20 08-11-2006 15:19:25

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#21 08-11-2006 15:20:18

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

kaworu a écrit:

bon je remonte le topic pour une petite astuce un peu "dangereuse" mais qui peu payer
hier je jouer contre un senior sur NW
et au trou 8 il me fait un toma sur le bord du "chemin" menant au chateau centrale
la balle frappe de plein foué et s'ecrase contre le bord en face et la balle file dnas la "rigole de glace" vers le green
resultat un coup qui lui rapporte 215pang x2

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Déjà vu aussi mais il faut faire un toma topspin avec fiole verte

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#22 08-11-2006 15:26:07

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#23 08-11-2006 15:50:03

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Re: Astuces sur White Wiz

oups desole comme je ne l'avais pas vu dans ces rubriques je voulais juste le partager
maintenant pour savoir ou exactement frappé
???? lol


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#24 08-11-2006 16:04:35

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sur le mur mais il faut réussir le toma powerspin sans la pilule grise vu qu'il faut utiliser une fiole verte donc plus simple de passer à gauche si le vent le permet !

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#25 09-11-2006 12:53:31

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Bin....C'est clair comme du jus de boudin vos posts, je ne vois pas du tout où il faut taper ce toma avec spin mastery ! (comment ça je suis nul ???)


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